In episode 188, Jon Jordan talks to The Sandbox's Sebastien Borget about what happened in 2024 and what's planned for 2025.

• [2:49 ] "The metaverse is far from dead". The Sandbox Alpha 4 had over 580,000 players.


• [4:25 ] No matter the market, people see that The Sandbox is building and launching."


• [5:35 ] "We will have four seasons in 2025. Alpha 5 is already in production."


• [7:20 ] A criticism of seasons is it means The Sandbox is stop-start. There's no flywheel.


• [10:20 ] "We are in alpha now but in 2025 we expect to go into beta."


• [13:10 ] RE: UGC, The Sandbox is following a similar approach to Fortnite and its UEFN program.


• [14:00 ] The mobile client didn't come out in 2024 so what's happening there?


• [15:30 ] Part of our new strategy is the Voxel Games Program - standalone games including mobile.


• [18:01 ] We have two announced games and over 100 applications for the program.


• [21:45 ] Will you release The Sandbox PC client through stores like Epic Games Store?


• [23:22 ] "The success of the metaverse requires the product, the content and the ecosystem."


• [26:32 ] "Our vision has always been to empower the creators."


• [29:18 ] How do AI agents fit into The Sandbox's vision?